Griffins vs Simpsons

[Nyx]

Team Griffin: Peter, Lois, Chris, Meg, Stewie, Brian

Team Simpson: Homer, Marge, Bart, Lisa, Maggie, Santaslittlehelper

Full out family brawl; playground at sundown. Who wins?

[Lord Sorgo]

Homer apparently knows Ninjitsu, according to the snake bashing episode. And I know Bart knows Karate and has Matrix-like powers.

Homer beats Peter senseless, Marge would ruin Lois (Marge has police skills and martial arts skills as well.), Lisa is too smart for Maggie, Stewie would absolutely destroy Maggie and Brian would outsmart SLH.

Bart would get Brian too with his Martial Arts.

Homer, Marge, Bart and Lisa VS Stewie and Brian.

I'm pretty sure the Simpsons team takes the remainder. Unless Stewie has some trick up his sleeve.

[Kamikz]

Lol, feels weird to actually debate a fight with these characters....


Uh, Lois had martial arts to, she defeated the master of martial arts with ease, and a whole room full of people (including some weird star trek guys with weird power):p.
She would beat Marge easily, Marge never showed any impressive stuff with that really, Lois defeated like 20 men at once.....


Stewie would ruin Maggie, Brian would ruin Santaslittlehelper.
Stewie has beaten full grown men before to, has things like guns, time freezing stuff etc. to his help, and he has killed people before, won't have a problem with that.

Chris is to large and to fat to be beaten by Bart, and even if Bart would win it would take a long time to take Chris down.


And Peter resisted about 30 tranqualizer darts in his body, when one knocked out a normal person instantly. Also this about Homer knowing Ninjitsu doesn't automatically mean he will win in a fight, Peter has fought his fair share of battles. (And if counting the one with the chicken, he is a damn good fighter).

[Lord Sorgo]

Homer doesn't just know Ninjitsu . . . He can jump at great heights and has untold reflexes. Not to mention Homer can withstand more than ten gunshots and a gut-revealing slash to the abdomen.

Marge was able to take down a Kung Fu master and a well known Wrestler.

[Nikkolas]

Uh, Lois had martial arts to, she defeated the master of martial arts with ease, and a whole room full of people (including some weird star trek guys with weird power).

Those were Kryptonians - Zod, ursa and Non. But it is kinda moot because she never did anything as impressive ever againa nd Peter was trading blows with her later on. Someone who can actually beat a Kryptonian is not gonna have trouble with Peter.

And Lisa is a lot smarter than Stewie. Meg is a non-issue. She hates her family too much to even try. Lisa would kill Stewie and her before they could do anything.

[Lord Sorgo]

Lisa is smarter than Stewie? Since when?

Her biggest project was a robot that corrects speech.

Stewie has made ray guns capable of blowing through walls and disentergrating things, he is smart, he's made a ship that can change sizes and disentergrate things with laser technology, he's made devices capable of mentally controlling someone so he can do what he wants with them and we've seen he is great at stealth and espionage.

[Illustrious]

Stewie pulls out his deatomizer and fries like three of them on the spot.

Peter actually can fight on equal grounds with the Giant Yellow Chicken, Homer got absolutely destroyed by a Mike Tyson wannabe.

Lois and Marge both showed martial arts, but Lois gets in more fights, she's got battle experience on Marge, she beats her.

Chris and Meg both are bigger, older, and stronger than Lisa and Bart, Bart could outsmart them, but he gets pummeled by Nelson all the time.

Stewie just beats people senseless, he does it all the time.

[Darth_Glentract]

Peter wins this on his own. Evidence: http://youtube.com/watch?v=weag-wuh3jY

[Nikkolas]

And yet, with all his amazing "brains" Stewie can't kill his completely oblivious mother. He ain't gonna kill the Simpsons.

And Lisa has made a perpetual motion machine and Homer (with no crayon) completely o accident proved there was no God. Even Flanders was forced simply to burn it. Lisa also has made atiny race of people who reached space age in a matter of days. Stewsie is completely overrated. A lot like Cartman.

[Illustrious]

And yet, with all his amazing "brains" Stewie can't kill his completely oblivious mother. He ain't gonna kill the Simpsons.

And Lisa has made a perpetual motion machine and Homer (with no crayon) completely o accident proved there was no God. Even Flanders was forced simply to burn it. Lisa also has made atiny race of people who reached space age in a matter of days. Stewsie is completely overrated. A lot like Cartman.
Simple, a lot of plot device, extraordinary circumstance, and deus ex machina.

Stewie's killed plenty of people before. None of the guys he's facing has plot protection.

Comparing Stewie to Cartman is like trying to compare Gauss to an elementary school teacher.

[Nikkolas]

Hardly. They're both pretty overrated. They've both shown to be smart and stupid. Neither of them are half-as-good as others think. Cartman's single greatest accomplishment was only achieved after getting embarrassed for 99% of the episode.

Anyway, Stewsie can't kill Lois. That's a fact. Circumstance or not, Homer and Lisa ar ea lot smarter than Lois (well, without the crayon Homer is smart. Without it, he's able to make people job to him) and what is Stewie gonna whip up for the fight? No one said prep. He is basically going on nothing. It will take Homer sitting on him to kill him.

Peter is the only danger. His fights with the chicken is his high points but Homer has a rock-solid head and a cannonball-proof stomach.

[Cure]

Anyway, Stewsie can't kill Lois. That's a fact. Circumstance or not, Homer and Lisa ar ea lot smarter than Lois (well, without the crayon Homer is smart. Without it, he's able to make people job to him) and what is Stewie gonna whip up for the fight? No one said prep. He is basically going on nothing. It will take Homer sitting on him to kill him.

So, just because he can't kill off one of the main characters makes him going to lose? Hardly. The little tot always has some sort of ace up his sleeve.

[Nikkolas]

Like what? Stewsie is a mini-Dr. Doom. Put Dr. Doom in a fight with no prep and he dies. The opening post did not say "each family gets 10 hours prep." It's just a start-up knock-down fight. Stewie is gonna have time to find resources and cobble together something? Maggie has managed to defeat and scare off a group of mobsters. She also could crawl through traffic. She doesn't use ray-guns or fancy inventions. SHe just needs good old-fashioned lead.

[Illustrious]

Hardly. They're both pretty overrated. They've both shown to be smart and stupid. Neither of them are half-as-good as others think. Cartman's single greatest accomplishment was only achieved after getting embarrassed for 99% of the episode.

Anyway, Stewsie can't kill Lois. That's a fact. Circumstance or not, Homer and Lisa ar ea lot smarter than Lois (well, without the crayon Homer is smart. Without it, he's able to make people job to him) and what is Stewie gonna whip up for the fight? No one said prep. He is basically going on nothing. It will take Homer sitting on him to kill him.

Peter is the only danger. His fights with the chicken is his high points but Homer has a rock-solid head and a cannonball-proof stomach.
The problem is that Stewie has shown to have stuff without prep. His damn diaper is apparently a wormhole for his techno gadgets.

The whole point is that Lois has a character shield. There's a damn deus ex machina each time Stewie tries to kill her. In a way, you can even argue that this deus ex machina represents Stewie not wanting to kill Lois deep down. But the fact of the matter is that characters without this character shield PIS get killed by Stewie all the time.

PIS doesn't count for nothing in versus threads. And as shown in the cartoons, Peter has slugged it out with the Big Yellow Chicken, Lois has gone Kung Fu, Brian and Stewie and Meg and Chris have all shown the ability to fight with good proficiency.

Bart just shows the ability to gag when he gets choked.

[Nikkolas]

Homer went toe-to-toe and managed to survive round after round of people hitting him in the head with no effect.This went on for months. The only person who could really hurt him was a guy who could stop a prison riot with a simple wod of annoyance.

He also has shown to be able to take close-rangecannon fire to his gut with little effect.

He could also dig through his skin with a knife and poke around till he found a bullet and pop it out.

Marge on steroids managed to beat a good load of people down. She could take Lois no problem.

Chris is an idiot. He won't do anything effective. Bart has done more than gag when choked. He's shown a deviousness that Chris couldn't hope for with 50 more IQ points as that would probably only bring his IQ to 70.

I already stated Meg won't fight really. She doesn't like her family. She has no reason to go all-out. And Lisa also trumps her in intellect. Meg is a sob story while Lisa is a sob story mixed in with great showings of immense intelligence and determination.

[Lord Sorgo]

Chris screams whenever a fight is going on. Has he ever really actually foughten? He's a little pussy and Bart would straight out outsmart him. Chris is stupid.

Homer is stronger than Peter. Alot. He's survived getting his head smashed against a bridge by momentum and force of a fifty ton crane.

[Kamikz]

Chris has fought before, and yeah he is damn stupid, but so is Bart actually. (Not AS stupid, but stupid non-the-less) I don't see how a boy of his age could actually take damage on such a big person like Chris....


Still, Homer is getting knocked out by a professional boxer, he doesn't strike harder than canonballs fly. If I remember correctly, Marge is no longer on steroids, Homer has a problem with his stomach for having the canon balls fly into it. And knowing martial arts is overrated. A person with a black belt can lose to a person who just fights alot or knows how to fight.

And as said before, Lois kicked a whole room of people, including those Star Trek guys, and she defeated a master in martial arts under 15 seconds. She didn't have to be on steroids or anything like that, she can fight like that whenever she has to, and she does usually fight. Marge almost never does, and she gets scared to hell when she is robbed, won't even leave the house.


But whatever, Stewie just tosses a grenade at them and they die. (He has many stocked in his daipers. Shown when the laws of death does not apply).

[Lord Sorgo]

This is the Bart who has broken into prisons, survived torment and chase from adults . . .

He has experience.

Knowing Martial Arts is overrated? That's the most idiotic comment I've ever heard.

Oh yeah, I forgot . . . People who don't know Martial Arts don't know how to fight. LMAO! Sarcasm!

Marge defeated a grandmaster of Kung fu in about a second by flipping him on his back.


Bart isn't even close to Chris' level of bland stupidity. Give me a break.

[Nikkolas]

And as said before, Lois kicked a whole room of people, including those Star Trek guys

I already said who they were: Zod, Non and Ursa. They are parodies of the three villains of Superman II. Peter says "Krypton sucks!" and Lois tossed the 3 into teh Phantom Zone, the place they were imprisoned. And once more that is a completely unrealistic and unaccountable feat because Peter was trading blows with her later on. If she can dispose ofa frickin' Kryptonian like Zod and it was nothing, she'd have no problem with a fat guy...even if he is a fat guy who can fight insanely long with a chicken. He's no Kryptonian.

[Lord Sorgo]

Maybe by this Logic, Peter is stronger than a Kyrptonian!

[Darth_Glentract]

He might actually be stronger than one. :p

[Kamikz]

This is the Bart who has broken into prisons, survived torment and chase from adults . . .

He has experience.

Knowing Martial Arts is overrated? That's the most idiotic comment I've ever heard.

Oh yeah, I forgot . . . People who don't know Martial Arts don't know how to fight. LMAO! Sarcasm!

Marge defeated a grandmaster of Kung fu in about a second by flipping him on his back.


Bart isn't even close to Chris' level of bland stupidity. Give me a break.


Yeah, and the same Bart that gets his ass kicked by Nelson and sometimes Lisa....



No, it is not idiotic. People seem to think "WOwz, he trained Karate for 2 weeks and he is fighting someone who hasn't trained karate at all, so he knows Karate to some degree, he wins". Knowing a martial art does NOT automatically grant you combat abilities to win over someone who haven't trained martial arts, not even if you have a black belt you have a secured victory. Goddamn............



And yet Chris is much bigger built than Bart is. It's gonna be a heck of a time to take him down, and by that time, the Simpsons are already killed by Stewie.


And for the last fucking time, Lois didn't beat Peter because of PLOT LINE, besides, Peter is a good fighter when he has to. He got his ass kicked by Lois, however, he is to big and fat to be knocked down. He was hit with over 15 tranqualizer darts in his body, yet he did not faint, and ran around for a heck of a long time with them. Nobody is knocking down Peter fast, NOBODY.




And your logic is flawed. "Lois could beat those Star Trek guys (I don't care what the hecks their names are), but she couldn't beat Peter, and Peter can't beat them, so Lois can't beat them". WTF, she can beat them, she HAS beaten them. She didn't beat Peter because of what is explained above. ^

[Lord Sorgo]

Yeah, and the same Bart that gets his ass kicked by Nelson and sometimes Lisa....

He has also completely outsmarted Lisa and he's beaten Nelson before just by freaking out.



No, it is not idiotic. People seem to think "WOwz, he trained Karate for 2 weeks and he is fighting someone who hasn't trained karate at all, so he knows Karate to some degree, he wins". Knowing a martial art does NOT automatically grant you combat abilities to win over someone who haven't trained martial arts, not even if you have a black belt you have a secured victory. Goddamn............

No, it is idiotic.

No offense, but if you had a guy with no Martial arts experience, and another guy without it, the more logical choice would be the man with the training.

They are trained how to fight. It's like saying someone who is a trained soccer player will be worse than someone who hasn't just for the sake of disagreeing.



And yet Chris is much bigger built than Bart is. It's gonna be a heck of a time to take him down, and by that time, the Simpsons are already killed by Stewie.

So what! Bart has taken down a whole city of kids and has done worse damage.


And for the last fucking time, Lois didn't beat Peter because of PLOT LINE, besides, Peter is a good fighter when he has to. He got his ass kicked by Lois, however, he is to big and fat to be knocked down. He was hit with over 15 tranqualizer darts in his body, yet he did not faint, and ran around for a heck of a long time with them. Nobody is knocking down Peter fast, NOBODY.


Once again, more crap.

Your logic:

Peter can survive fifteen tranq darts. Therefore, Peter will defeat Lois.

That is such bad logic, I think I just blew an artery. How do you know he doesn't have an immunity to tranquilizer darts? And if Lois took down enemies that Superman had trouble with, Peter is gone.




And your logic is flawed. "Lois could beat those Star Trek guys (I don't care what the hecks their names are), but she couldn't beat Peter, and Peter can't beat them, so Lois can't beat them". WTF, she can beat them, she HAS beaten them. She didn't beat Peter because of what is explained above. ^

Lois has beaten three of Supermans enemies and a room full of avid Star Trekkies.

Peter had trouble with a guy in a chicken suit.

DO THE MATH. Thanks.

[Kamikz]

He has also completely outsmarted Lisa and he's beaten Nelson before just by freaking out.





No, it is idiotic.

No offense, but if you had a guy with no Martial arts experience, and another guy without it, the more logical choice would be the man with the training.

They are trained how to fight. It's like saying someone who is a trained soccer player will be worse than someone who hasn't just for the sake of disagreeing.





So what! Bart has taken down a whole city of kids and has done worse damage.





Once again, more crap.

Your logic:

Peter can survive fifteen tranq darts. Therefore, Peter will defeat Lois.

That is such bad logic, I think I just blew an artery. How do you know he doesn't have an immunity to tranquilizer darts? And if Lois took down enemies that Superman had trouble with, Peter is gone.






Lois has beaten three of Supermans enemies and a room full of avid Star Trekkies.

Peter had trouble with a guy in a chicken suit.

DO THE MATH. Thanks.



And Nelson kicks his ass all the other days in the week.


Martial arts does not count that much that we can say it's an absolute win. If someone has been in his fair share of battles before, I would say he has at least as much chance, afterall, it's not more than one hit and someone falls down if we are talking realistically.
And some martial arts are only trained for show as well. I've watched shows where they go to all different kinds of martial arts tranings to see and learn, and many said, "In a battle, I would drop all the stupid show of things we do, pick up a rock, toss it and probably run".



Uh......... WHEN DID I SAY PETER COULD BEAT LOIS????? I specifically said "No one is taking down Peter fast", I didn't say that anyone couldn't.........



LOL! She DID defeat them, so how come she couldn't beat Peter? PLOT LINE. Let's see, we have SEEN HER defeat those Star Trek guys, that means she CAN beat them. Now how does the Peter part make that worse, doesn't that actually make Peter AS good as Lois in a fight? Why should it make Lois lesser? We've seen Peter battle before, and Peter as said before is not gonna go down fast. We saw a martial arts master go down on 3 strikes from Lois, Peter took about a 100.

[Illustrious]

Peter fought a Yellow Chicken for minutes after minutes. They were able to get run over by a car, and fight through the windshield. Then they were able to drop down the side of a road, roll down a hill, fall off a cliff dozens of feet through a window, through a table. Then get up and fight throughout the ship, into the boiler room, watch as it runs into the pier, then continue to fight.

And it's obvious that the chicken and Peter aren't weaklings, as the chicken was able to survive getting sliced up by an airplane propeller.

Compare this to Homer who gets absolutely destroyed by a competent boxer and can't take canonballs to the chest.

[Lord Sorgo]

You're being selective. Homer has also survived lava, had his stomach torn open and stood there moving and talking, got his head smashed into concrete, steel, wood, cement, bircks AND lived (When he's on the yellow crane.) He's lived from falls off of buildings, being hit by a car, falling off of a bike down an enormous cliff ...

[Sandman]

PETER OWNS HOMER (http://youtube.com/watch?v=2pkynTqDPak)

Griffin family wins

[Lord Sorgo]

That's not fair. lol.

[darthshredder]

i would say
griffins win of course

[darthshredder]

no way simpsons takes it hands down their way smarter that would give them the edge.

[Illustrious]

no way simpsons takes it hands down their way smarter that would give them the edge.
Do you debate with yourself frequently?

[Faunus]

IQ = Intelligence Kuoshent.