Silencer S
10-20-2006, 10:20 PM
Team 1: Characters from Chrono Trigger
Crono
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d2/Crono_new_art.jpg/175px-Crono_new_art.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crono
Magus
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/9/95/Magus_new_art.jpg/175px-Magus_new_art.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magus_%28Chrono_Trigger%29
Frog
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/7/79/Frog_new_art.jpg/200px-Frog_new_art.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frog_%28Chrono_Trigger%29
Team 2: Characters from Final Fantasy 7
Cloud
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/50/Cloud_Strife_art.jpg/200px-Cloud_Strife_art.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_Strife
Aerith
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/de/200px-Aerith_Gainsborough_art.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerith_Gainsborough
Vincent
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/de/Vincent_Valentine_art.jpg/200px-Vincent_Valentine_art.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vincent_Valentine
Team 3: Characters from Final Fantasy IX
Zidane
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c2/Zidane_Tribal_character.jpg/150px-Zidane_Tribal_character.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zidane_Tribal
Vivi
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/2/2d/Vivi_Ornitier_character.jpg/150px-Vivi_Ornitier_character.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivi_Ornitier
Garnet
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e8/Garnet_Til_Alexandros_XVII_character.jpg/150px-Garnet_Til_Alexandros_XVII_character.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garnet_Til_Alexandros_XVII
Team 4: Characters from Final Fantasy X
Tidus
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e3/Tidus_artwork.jpg/200px-Tidus_artwork.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tidus
Yuna
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/1/14/Yuna_artwork.jpg/160px-Yuna_artwork.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuna_%28Final_Fantasy%29
Auron
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/b/b1/Auron_artwork.jpg/200px-Auron_artwork.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auron
Setting: A forest!
ROUND 2: All of the characters are revived, and together, they have to fight a team of these villains:
Kefka (full power)
Sephiroth (full power)
Kuja (full power)
Lavos
Braska's Final Aeon
Ultimecia
Nikkolas
10-20-2006, 11:17 PM
Glad I get to respond to this first. The FFIX team takes it because of Garnet. While FFVII's uber-cheap "everyone gets the same powers" is tough (and makes the game insanely easy - everyone can use a KOTR for God's sake) Garnet has city-busting eidolons. Odin destroyed Cleyra in a simple strike. He could level FFVII's party ina heartbeat. Or she can simply use Atomos who would swallow them all. Once they're out of the way, Zidane will run circles around Auron in speed but you can't honestly "kill" him so a TKO will be forthcoming when Zidane decaps him. If Yuna wants to try some White Magic, Vivi is ready to incinerate her with his own magic power which is higher than any other Black Mage or Black Waltz and they were capable of causing entire blizzards or causing some major-league wreckage. She has very low endurance given she's human and will fall easy to a huge magic spell.
Now, the CT team, I don't know about. Oh and Tidus. Poor Tidus. Bahamut will make it swift and painless. One shot and he's annihilated. I guess the same could be true for CT's team.
Scenario 2: Kuja demolishes, devastates, kills, destroys, obliterates and in every sense of the word makes extremely dead every party while the other villains wonder why they are there. And don't give me "well, FFIX's team beat him." It's called PIS-plot-induced stupidity. Kuja showed he could either nuke or blow up an entire planet. A group of humans who can't even reach him will last like what...a minute?
Lord Sorgo
10-21-2006, 01:46 AM
The FFX team mops the floor with the rest of the team. Teams lose in this order:
First Loss: Chrono Trigger Team.
Second Loss: FFIX Team.
Third Loss: FFVII Team.
Winners: FFX Team.
And for the second round, the Villains absolutely wipe the floor with everyone.
Sephiroth is a Demi God, Kuja is uber powerful, Ultimecia is said to be a Demi God and Kefka? Well, Kefka becomes a God.
Sephiroth casts Supernova, Kuja casts Ultima, Kefka casts Light of Judgment . . .
Silencer S
10-21-2006, 02:49 AM
Originally, I was going to add in more teams so that they'd stand a chance in Round 2, but then I got lazy >.>
Nikkolas
10-21-2006, 03:41 AM
Yes..well, Kuja and Sephiroth. I'll say one is a demi-god but not the other and you can guess which one I think is and which I think isn't.
And FFIX's team cleans house. It's really that simple. Weaker eidolons in Garnet's bag o' summons could destroy entire cities with ease. What is Yuna gonna do? Atomos comes up, swallows her, Auron and Tidus and the "winning" FFX team dies instantly. Honestly. You hav eno basis for FFX winning. Garnet has city-destroying monsters on her side. No plot-wise feats exist with Yuna'a eons. And once Atomos has swallowed FFX's group into his little void, Garnet summons Bahamut who can manhandle military fleets and removes FFVII's party.
Lord Sorgo
10-21-2006, 04:58 AM
Yuna casts Death or Ultima. Bye bye, FFIX party.
Same with FFVII party. Cast Hades, FFIX party inevidably dies. Or the FFVII Party casts Ultima, Master, Death, Comet2, Destruct, Demi3 . . .
Lol, Just Cities? How about Bahamut ZERO that can utilize damage that scapes half of a planet. Or Neo Bahamut who uses Giga Flare.
Or Knights of the Round? Unescapable maneuver.
Lol, and Typhoon? Instant disentergration? Please.
Aerith Casts Final Heaven. Party is invulnerable.
FFIX has alot of summons, but FFVII has those summons, plus more, PLUS Advanced Forms of their summons.
FFIX uses their trance? FFVII Party uses it's limit breaks.
The FFX team sucks. I don't know what I was thinking. The FFVII team wins.
Let us review, shall we?
F F I X Magic Abilities
Offensive powers
Spell MP Effect
Fire 6 Causes Fire damage to single/multiple targets
Fira 12 Causes a lot of Fire damage to single/multiple targets
Firaga 24 Causes big time Fire damage to single/multiple targets
Sleep 10 Puts single/multiple targets to sleep
Blizzard 6 Causes Ice damage to single/multiple targets
Blizzara 12 Causes a lot of Ice damage to single multiple targets
Blizzaga 24 Causes big time Ice damage to single/multiple targets
Slow 6 Slows down ATB Gauge
Thunder 6 Causes Thunder damage to single/multiple targets
Thundara 12 Causes a lot of Thunder damage to single/multiple targets
Thundaga 24 Causes big time Thunder damage to single/multiple targets
Stop 8 Stops targets from taking any action
Poison 8 Causes Poison to single/multiple targets
Bio 18 Causes non-elemental damage and Poison to single/multiple targets
Osmose 2 Absorbs MP from the target and transfers it to the spell caster
Drain 14 Drains HP from the target and transfers it to the spell caster
Demi 18 Amount of damage depends on the target’s HP
Comet 16 Causes non-elemental damage
Death 20 KO’s the target
Break 18 Causes Petrify
Water 22 Causes Water damage to single/multiple targets
Meteor 42 Causes non-elemental damage to all enemies
Flare 40 Causes non-elemental damage
Doomsday 72 Causes Shadow damage to all targets
F F V I I Magic Abilities
Offensive powers
Ice - Automatically Equipped -
Ice 4 - -
Ice 2 22 - 2,000
Ice 3 52 - 18,000
Master - - 35,000
Lightning - Automatically Equipped -
Bolt 4 - -
Bolt 2 22 - 2,000
Bolt 3 52 - 18,000
Master - - 40,000
Fire - Sector 7 Materia Shop -
Fire 4 - -
Fire 2 22 - 2,000
Fire 3 52 - 18,000
Master - - 35,000
Poiso - SHINRA Corporate HQ Floor 67 -
Bio 8 - -
Bio 2 36 - 5,000
Bio 3 80 - 20,000
Master - - 38,000
Earth - Shop in Kalm Town -
Quake 6 - -
Quake 2 28 - 6,000
Quake 3 68 - 22,000
Master - - 40,000
Poisona 3 - -
Master - - 55,000
Seal - Shop in Junon -
Sleep 8 - -
Silence 24 - 10,000
Master - - 20,000
Transform - Mt. Corel Railroad Tracks -
Mini 10 - -
Toad 14 - 8,000
Master - - 24,000
Mystify - Shop in Gongaga -
Confu 18 - -
Berserk 28 - 12,000
Master - - 25,000
Time - Shop in Gongaga -
Haste 18 - -
Slow 20 - 8,000
Stop 34 - 20,000
Master - - 42,000
Gravity - After Gi Nattaki Fight in Cave of the Gi -
Demi 14 - -
Demi 2 33 - 10,000
Demi 3 48 - 20,000
Master - - 40,000
Destruct - From Sephiroth-SHINRA Mansion -
DeBarrier 12 - -
DeSpell 20 - 6,000
Death 30 - 10,000
Master - - 45,000
Barrier - Shop in Rocket Town -
Barrier 16 - -
MBarrier 24 - 5,000
Reflect 30 - 15,000
Wall 58 - 30,000
Master - - 45,000
Exit - Shop in Rocket Town -
Escape 16 - -
Remove 99 - 10,000
Master - - 30,000
Comet - Forgotten City -
Comet 70 - -
Comet2 110 - 12,000
Master - - 100,000
Contain - White Chocobo in Mideel -
Freeze 82 - -
Break 86 - 5,000
Tornado 90 - 10,000
Flare 100 - 15,000
Master - - 60,000
Ultima - North Corel (After stopping train) -
Ultima 130 - 5,000
Master - - 100,000
Master Magic - Either master all 21 individual magic spells then go to Cosmo Canyon and approach the Huge Green Materia, or defeat the Emerald Weapon and trade the Earth Harp to the Traveler in Kalm
FFIX SUMMONS
Shiva
User: Garnet
MP Used: 24
Attack: Ice Elemental Attack / All
Ifrit
User: Garnet
MP Used: 26
Attack: Fire Elemental Attack / All
Ramuh
User: Garnet
MP Used: 22
Attack: Thunder Elemental Attack / All
Atomos
User: Garnet
MP Used: 32
Attack: Non-Elemental Attack / All
Odin
User: Garnet
MP Used: 28
Attack: Instant Death Attack / All Equip with suitable ability Odin can cause damage if instant death can't be cast.
Leviathan
User: Garnet
MP Used: 42
Attack: Water Elemental Attack / All
Bahamut
User: Garnet
MP Used: 56
Attack: Non-Elemental Attack / All
Ark
User: Garnet
MP Used: 80
Attack: Dark Elemental Attack / All
Cabuncle
User: Eiko
MP Used: 24
Attack: Cast "Reflect" / All Members
Fenrir
User: Eiko
MP Used: 30
Attack: Earth Elemental Attack / All
Phoenix
User: Eiko
MP Used: 32
Attack: Fire Elemental Attack / All
Revive Deceased Members / All Members
FFVII SUMMONS
Name Description MP AP
Choco/Mog Deathblow/Fat Chocobo 14 m
Shiva Diamond Dust 32
Ifrit Hellfire 34
Ramuh Judgement Bolt 40
Titan Anger of the Land 46
Odin Steel Bladed Sword/Gunge Lance 80
Kjata Tetra Disaster 110
Bahamut Mega Flare 110
Alexander Judgement 120
Neo Bahamut Giga Flare 140
Leviathan Tidal Wave 78
Phoenix Phoenix Flame 180
Hades Black Cauldron 150
Bahamut ZERO Terra Flare 180
Typoon Disintegration 160
Knights of the Round Ultimate End 250
FFIX = Eidolons and Elements.
FFVII = Red, Green, Yellow, Purple, Blue, Yellow, Black. I've only listed Red and Green.
The FFVII has a wider selection and vista of attacks and they're more powerful.
I can list more, actually.
Aerith uses her ability to have two summons at once. FFIX summons their Bahamut.
FFVII summons Neo Bahamut and Bahamut Zero. Lol, XI Party is stomped and the IX Bahamut is dissipated into unexistance.
Sephiroth is a Demi God. That's the difference. He can come back to life, His power level is off the charts, he can fly, he has several forms, he is able to teleport . . . Yup, Demi God.
Kuja was insanely powerful, but no God. No, not at all.
Do reply to this. I already have a secondary rebuttal awaiting.
Nikkolas
10-21-2006, 05:32 AM
None of them destroyed a city or a fleet. ALl that was pointless. Odin stands at an entire city vaporized. Atomos stands at swallowing an entire district and everyone in it. Bahamut stands at wiping out a warfleet. Want me to stop? I could care less about stats because all that is majorly weak. Plot-scenes take priority and Garnet's eidolons have a bit more under their belt.
And yes, Kuja was a demi-god. That's why with his one life, he could revive people, threaten existence, warp reality and create pocket dimensions to go where he wanted to go and his power was so immense it called forth Necron. Sephirtoh didn't achieve anything near that status. His attempt at simply effecting one planet failed...twice and his actions didn't exactly summon a multi-dimensional force.